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The personal near death experiences and heavenly insights of Sixwings and Sixwings11. We wish to share with you spiritual wisdom of the afterlife from our near death experiences (NDE'S). There is life after death beyond most's imaginations. This is an excellent read for those concerned with death and dying. We wish all to know that God is a loving Father.
Sunday, January 11, 2004
Lucifer's Fall
I was taken to this place of darkness...not frightening darkness...lovely darkness...provoking that wonderful feeling one has after having a flashlight in their eyes and after closing them for awhile...this feeling of comfort. Or, for those who cannot sleep with a light on...that feeling of serenity one has in this darkness. Jesus was with me. He showed me an angel...the type I saw forming the tunnel...as I previously wrote of. There was only one...not 1/3 of heavens angels. Suddenly, as if an untied balloon, full of air, was let go of...so was this 'angel'. I saw this 'angel' irradically moving in every direction and then finally expelled...lying on the ground. I understood this telepathically from Jesus to be representing Lucifer. Jesus asked me what I saw. It was obvious to me that there was nothing of use, in any way left. Like the balloon requiring a human to replace the air...Lucifer required the Father to replace the Light. Angels do not have the ability to perform this act for themselves...as humans do not have this ability for themselves. The Light comes from the Father. Nothing is created without this light. That leaves Lucifer quite useless. Jesus asked me...'What can Nothing do?' I answered him...'Nothing.' He said...with a smile...'Quite right.' This was crucial for me...as 'Satan was alive and well' in my fear based religious world. I understood that if anyone created Satan...it could not be God, not our loving heavenly Father. No angel in heaven would begin to think of being God or above Him. They know that they would not exist without the Father and His Light. In Isaiah 14:12...Lucifer & his fall is clearly described...continuing through this entire passage....we see the King of Babylon...a man who ruled the world. Whom the known nations of this time...trembled before his ruling power. A perfect example today, would be Saddam Hussein...especially to those held under his oppression. When Satan or Lucifer does not exist...one must look internally at their own selves...their own shadows. This is much more difficult to do then adopting a belief in Demons from Satan or Lucifer. But our free will requires that we do so...and then are we compelled to ask the Father to shed His Love & Light abroad in our hearts....and those shadows then become subject to the light...absorbed in this great light of Love that He has for us. No father would unleash a monster & millions of his sub-monsters on his children and not know that this is devoid of love. How much more would our heavenly Father only send us great helpers from His many Mansions.
- Sixwings
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Sunday, January 04, 2004
The Vision And Prophecy Of The Redwood
Jesus took me to a forest...Redwoods...like in northern California...the size that tunnels are carved out for cars to drive through. He spoke to me about the teaching of: "Say unto this mountain be thou removed and cast into the sea." He said..can you say that to this tree and it would fall? I said that I did not have the faith for this and I know it. He picked up an ax and handed it to me. Said...but could you take it down with this...even if it took your entire lifetime? Probably. He said...take a swing. I did...a minor cut was made. I turned around and Jesus was gone. I kept waiting and waiting for him. Time being what it is on the otherside...non-existent...I became a very unhappy camper in these woods all alone and left here without Jesus. I finally realized that I was given a job to do...and he wasn't coming back...until this tree fell. So I began chopping into it. After awhile, I found myself at peace...actually accepting and enjoying my situation. I began realizing just what a wondrous place this really was, and that... more & more. Suddenly, I saw something behind a bush...a chainsaw...whoa! This was even more exciting to use. I also thought...I'm not even tired doing this? The doing actually re-energized me. Then after awhile...I was amazed to see this one seat logging machine ( I still don't know the proper name for this, but I've seen them here). It had this large saw blade, that could be angled any way necessary...after having set all the 'gears' etc., in position...in one continuous cut, the entire tree fell. This brought a tremendous shaking, like an earthquake. I hadn't even noticed that it had been raining...the ground was soggy. I looked around and a large truck was pulling the stump and roots out! Many chains being used that were attached. Then I was instantly taken to another place.
Thursday, January 01, 2004
Near Death Experience Of Sixwings11
I was killed in a lone auto accident. I wrapped my car around a telephone pole at 90+ mph, not intentionally. The road followed three sets of traintracks, and I had just crossed over the train bridge and was going down a hill with an abrupt turn at the bottom. I remember turning and straightening out and that's all. After the impact, I was conscious; my head hurt, I was not wearing a seatbelt and had flown into the corner of the roof post and the windshield on the passenger side. I felt my head and it was bleeding profusely. I remember saying " oh s***" and opened the drivers door and fell out of the car. The next thing I remember, I was standing next to my body; the pain was gone, in fact I felt pretty good - I knew I had died at that moment and felt sadness for a time that my life was over. I thought of my parents, family and friends, and...uh oh...what have I done here? I knew this was it; then I wondered what happens next? I started to hear a low pitched hum and it grew louder and louder, I began to float over the scene of the wreck and then over my body as if to say goodbye to myself, "it is almost time to go on." I didn't think to 'go' to my parents or anyone at the time, which now seems odd to me, almost selfish, because I was very close to them all. I was enamored with wonderment at my 'situation'. I felt strangely at peace with the entire scene before me. Then I felt pulled, rapidly from the scene as if I were being lifted up backwards and began to enter into a tornado-like tunnel. The humming sound was very loud now and I was travelling very fast for a long time. I remember wanting to stop because I could feel every atom of my being strained to its limit; I felt like I was being torn to shreds by the velocity. I saw a bright light and slowly, slowed down and "landed" on the top of a grassy hill. I was standing there and thought to myself, " I must be dead." I heard a voice in my chest and in my head reply, "You are." I was also aware of someone behind me, though I didn't turn around. I looked out from my vantage point and saw a pulsating orb to my left. Kind of like our sun, but closer and with a white/golden color. Beams of light were emanating forth slightly and returning to it. I looked forward and could see a valley, surrounded by mountains with millions of people in this valley dancing, singing and raising their arms in praise. They were bathed in the light of this orb. I was asking questions and they were being answered immediately; telepathically. Then I felt a hand on my back gently but forcefully "leading" me toward the valley. As we approached the valley, I noticed these clay-like figures surrounding the "worshippers", they were hideous, tall, and their eyes staring blindly forward. They seemed 'wrapped in darkness', stoic, and lifeless. Each one was about eight feet apart and formed a gruesome 'fence' about the valley, they all faced away from it. I looked through into the valley between them and saw a woman, (whose daughter I met four years later, a friend I had yet to make on Earth, Her mom ) singing and clapping and praising God for all she was worth. She looked at me as if to say "Praise Him and do it now!!!. I was led up to one of these figures and I instinctively repulsed, but to no avail. The 'leading' put me face to face with this cold clammy being and my hair stood up on end like I had just put my finger into an electrical outlet. I had seen myself and knew I belonged inside this self-entity. Yet I couldn't accept it; I screamed in sheer terror, "Jesus !!!" I turned to my left and saw Him there. I jumped into Him, wrapping my arms and legs around His body and squeezed Him, and wouldn't let go. He comforted me and carried me to a place of peace and asked if I wanted to go back to my life and right the wrongs I had been doing. I must have agreed to, because all of the sudden, I was back over the scene of the wreck and there were all the lights flashing from the police cars, ambulances, and firetrucks. My body was surrounded with paramedics and their equipment. A crowd had gathered across the roadway. I heard them say, "give up, he's gone." And one paramedic said, "I'll give it one more try." They hit me with the paddles again, and I remember thinking, "I really don't want to return;" but I knew I had to, if I wanted to get things righted. I "put on my body" as you would put on a set of clothes. I sat and streched into each leg, laid back, and enveloped myself back into my body. I had no more conscious memory, until I awoke in the hospital the next afternoon. I had two large deep gashes to the right side of my head, narrowly missing my eye. Nothing broken. No brain damage (contrary to some opinions). No organ damage from loss of blood. I spent almost two days in the hospital, and the doctor said I could go home if I could get up and walk across the room. I ran, and am still running to this day. I wore an eyepatch for a few weeks, and bandages over my wounds until they were fully healed (as my eye stretched white due to the swelling). I still am blessed with 20/20 vision. 'Miracle' upon 'miracle' has been given to me and I am thankful for them all.
I told my family about my experience (Catholicism ruled) and they just laughed and said it was probably a dream (unable or unwilling to comprehend); and between themselves said, " He must have suffered brain damage." My senses were heightened (especially hearing). And I had developed a capacity for healing and clairvoyance where I could literally tell you what the next day's, paper's headline would read. I was different after this experience and my family knew it. They did everything possible to thwart my progression spiritually and mentally. I broke free completely from the catholic church and began my "investigation " of my spiritual development in many different churches: lutheran (that went over big with my family), methodist, baptist, pentacostal, etc...couldn't find the answers I needed. I tried everything and ended up discouraged, until I really started seeking God outside of the 'religious atmospheres'. I would simply take walks alone in the woods and commune with Him one on one, recieving the truth and applying it where possible. I was still "on the fence" dealing with my family of origin, and confused religious upbringing. I abused drugs and alcohol to cope with their onslaught of dysfunctional abuses. I somehow got it into my head that I was to somehow save them and this was my purpose. I finally allowed myself to break free of them completely after meeting my wife (sixwings). At first it was a struggle; a war that is still being skirmished, not by us but by them. They want me back in the "family" only as what I realize I was to them: a scapegoat. They have used my "gifts" to abuse me with them. I am an empath and have an enormous capacity to love, having been quite literally, in the arms of "Love" itself. They are like ravenous wolves, and if I laughed or showed joy, it was immediately rejected, and harshly. I love them dearly, but I cannot be with them. I understand how powerful family is and the great importance placed on it, as blood is thicker than water. But it occured to me after much seeking with God, that it takes a heart to pump the blood. I began to understand the teaching of Jesus in Matt. 10:34-40 (that religion has never adequately defined for me). I discovered that I could not follow Jesus and my family. I discovered that when I made my decison to separate myself from them, my walk with Jesus toward the Father, opened up and has continued to grow stronger. They wanted to control me like religion.
My hope is that I have not caused anyone offence with this writing. I have yet to tap the fullness of my experience as I am still trying to integrate it into my life. Many times in meditation, much more about my encounter is revealed. It is real difficult to express in words, the messages and feelings revealed. But I promise to do all I am able to do; to be clear and concise as I progress.
May God's love and peace dwell in your hearts.
-Sixwings 11
I told my family about my experience (Catholicism ruled) and they just laughed and said it was probably a dream (unable or unwilling to comprehend); and between themselves said, " He must have suffered brain damage." My senses were heightened (especially hearing). And I had developed a capacity for healing and clairvoyance where I could literally tell you what the next day's, paper's headline would read. I was different after this experience and my family knew it. They did everything possible to thwart my progression spiritually and mentally. I broke free completely from the catholic church and began my "investigation " of my spiritual development in many different churches: lutheran (that went over big with my family), methodist, baptist, pentacostal, etc...couldn't find the answers I needed. I tried everything and ended up discouraged, until I really started seeking God outside of the 'religious atmospheres'. I would simply take walks alone in the woods and commune with Him one on one, recieving the truth and applying it where possible. I was still "on the fence" dealing with my family of origin, and confused religious upbringing. I abused drugs and alcohol to cope with their onslaught of dysfunctional abuses. I somehow got it into my head that I was to somehow save them and this was my purpose. I finally allowed myself to break free of them completely after meeting my wife (sixwings). At first it was a struggle; a war that is still being skirmished, not by us but by them. They want me back in the "family" only as what I realize I was to them: a scapegoat. They have used my "gifts" to abuse me with them. I am an empath and have an enormous capacity to love, having been quite literally, in the arms of "Love" itself. They are like ravenous wolves, and if I laughed or showed joy, it was immediately rejected, and harshly. I love them dearly, but I cannot be with them. I understand how powerful family is and the great importance placed on it, as blood is thicker than water. But it occured to me after much seeking with God, that it takes a heart to pump the blood. I began to understand the teaching of Jesus in Matt. 10:34-40 (that religion has never adequately defined for me). I discovered that I could not follow Jesus and my family. I discovered that when I made my decison to separate myself from them, my walk with Jesus toward the Father, opened up and has continued to grow stronger. They wanted to control me like religion.
My hope is that I have not caused anyone offence with this writing. I have yet to tap the fullness of my experience as I am still trying to integrate it into my life. Many times in meditation, much more about my encounter is revealed. It is real difficult to express in words, the messages and feelings revealed. But I promise to do all I am able to do; to be clear and concise as I progress.
May God's love and peace dwell in your hearts.
-Sixwings 11
Tuesday, December 30, 2003
Ghosts & Spirits...
I was 20 years old and it was Christmas Eve. My first husband came in late and very drunk...we were expected at a family gathering hours before. We lived in a flat, or what would be considered a loft today...the primary room was large. While I was in & out loading the car, this man was ranting and raving...when I came in for the last articles & then to go...he said he wasn't going...when I told him it was his choice...but I was going...he slapped me across the face. I told him not to ever hit me again...at the same time I put my hand on his chest...he was closing in...and I pushed? too strong...nudge would be more definitive...it should not have moved him in the least...even being drunk maybe back a step if at all. But that's not what took place. This man flew like he had been hit by a destruction ball on a chain...hit the hardwood floor and slid a good 25 to 30 feet? What stopped him was a large piece of furniture...yet he slid into it with a strong jolt? Needless to say the man was stunned and sobered and never hit me again. He was also very sheepish of me for a long time. I was stunned also...I was sober...and I could not understand how this could happen...even if I tried to wallop him one...it wouldn't produce this? From that time on I was always cautious of myself wondering if I knew my own strength or not? None of it made sense to me. Well...30 years later (I'm giving my age away! HA!) I'm with some lady friends at a luncheon. One of the women there with us was introduced as having the ability to communicate with the other side. She turned to me and said...'you have known that your father has been with you when you were younger...you sensed this...then you missed him...for many years...then you know he is with you again...you sense this.' (TRUE...and this without me offering any information whatsoever...my father had passed on when I was 16yrs old) She continues...'you've wondered why you missed him...he disobeyed...he crossed a line out of love for you...but...he did not act out of higher love...he shows me now a man that he threw across a room...I see him landing on the floor violently...he says he did this for you...out of love for you...but...he was not supposed to intervene as he did...it was not divine intervention...when you missed him...he knew he had to stay back for a time and allow what was to be...to be.' This was one mind-blowing thing to hear...no one there knew this happened these many years ago. I, also throughout her speaking, allowed her to speak...but gave her no suggestions or spoke. Knowing my father...this would be difficult for him to accept... and not do anything. What follows is this...I was telling some of my family about all this. We were discussing whether or not this could have been my father? A book that is wedged between other books in a bookcase 'falls out' onto the floor...everyone in the room jumped. I went over to the book and it was a collection of Kipling...interesting my father use to read these to me as a child. We went on discussing the probability of this and could it really be my father? A picture falls over on a table that no one in the room is even near to jar that table...it is a black & white of my father as a young man! There is belief and unbelief discussed in this room at this point. My daughter had placed a movie video earlier on the vcr. This movie falls on the floor. The name of the movie is Picture Perfect?!? I had no doubts at that point. It was too obvious. That has been two years and although at odd times I do sense someone else present..and a most loving & recognized presence...nothing but nothing odd or unexplainable has occured since...
so...I've had thoughts about this. If my father could cross a line as he did...couldn't others? I'm still baffled about him being violent? And that after having passed over. If he had been present physically in this realm, no doubt about it, my dad would do this to any man who struck anyone out of complete nonsense and anger. However...I have since opened my ears to hearing about haunted houses and interventions. Some will advise to leave because it could get dangerous. So I'm also wondering if this could be possible if say we would hurt or offend another deeply...could someone to them, as my father was to me, out of a love and protection, say, cross a line also...maybe there is a time we have felt an angry fear-giving presence...perhaps we even thought it was a demon...could it be possible that it is a visitation from an upset relation to someone we have offended? Them wanting us to be warned somehow? What does bother me about the entire thing is that it leaves that opening for them to physically harm. Or is this then also intervened? Perhaps my father would have done more...again knowing him and believe it, or not, he was gentle and loving; I only saw the man upset but three times in 16 years over anything...but he would unleash if someone was being physically abused. He had zip tolerance for it. So this strong belief and feelings could be carried over...and he had yet to fully undo this in himself?
I do believe that messages can be just as crazy and deceptive from these entitites as well as on earth. I believed this to be the case when I kept hearing it was time to leave religion...just walk away. This war with 'myself' continued for some time! My argument was that my daughter was prospering...I had no idea...not for sometime...that my daughter was also going through her 'inquisition'...she was born independent and she believed she could & would get through this difficult time...but it only got worse...I was pretty shocked to realize that the timing synchronized with the onset of my own 'battle'. Within 24 hours after her coming to me with what she was being put through...we were out. As I look back...I even had so many signs right after my NDE!! But I was processing so much and I was desiring the Whole so much, I sacrificed those, blatant, as I see them now, signs.
- Sixwings
so...I've had thoughts about this. If my father could cross a line as he did...couldn't others? I'm still baffled about him being violent? And that after having passed over. If he had been present physically in this realm, no doubt about it, my dad would do this to any man who struck anyone out of complete nonsense and anger. However...I have since opened my ears to hearing about haunted houses and interventions. Some will advise to leave because it could get dangerous. So I'm also wondering if this could be possible if say we would hurt or offend another deeply...could someone to them, as my father was to me, out of a love and protection, say, cross a line also...maybe there is a time we have felt an angry fear-giving presence...perhaps we even thought it was a demon...could it be possible that it is a visitation from an upset relation to someone we have offended? Them wanting us to be warned somehow? What does bother me about the entire thing is that it leaves that opening for them to physically harm. Or is this then also intervened? Perhaps my father would have done more...again knowing him and believe it, or not, he was gentle and loving; I only saw the man upset but three times in 16 years over anything...but he would unleash if someone was being physically abused. He had zip tolerance for it. So this strong belief and feelings could be carried over...and he had yet to fully undo this in himself?
I do believe that messages can be just as crazy and deceptive from these entitites as well as on earth. I believed this to be the case when I kept hearing it was time to leave religion...just walk away. This war with 'myself' continued for some time! My argument was that my daughter was prospering...I had no idea...not for sometime...that my daughter was also going through her 'inquisition'...she was born independent and she believed she could & would get through this difficult time...but it only got worse...I was pretty shocked to realize that the timing synchronized with the onset of my own 'battle'. Within 24 hours after her coming to me with what she was being put through...we were out. As I look back...I even had so many signs right after my NDE!! But I was processing so much and I was desiring the Whole so much, I sacrificed those, blatant, as I see them now, signs.
- Sixwings
Jesus took me through many visual learning experiences...the following is another...
Jesus took me to this great room filled with the masses...As Jesus and I stood there, as if we were spirits looking through the veil...Jesus was also on that otherside of the veil with these masses (this could lead some to believe he is omnipresent, rather virtual reality, in its perfect form!)...everyone in the room knew he was about to honor someone in this room...I saw at the front of these masses many preachers & evangelists, all being very pleased with the 'work' that they had done on earth for God. Jesus walked right past them all...to their shock. He wandered through the crowds way to the back...there he stopped by an old woman. You could hear the buzz...what's he doing?...who is this woman?...no one knew who she was...the woman herself was suddenly understanding that he was by her and not someone close to her. She said...'Oh surely not me Lord?...He placed his hand on her shoulder, and said...'You did exactly what I told you to do...you did not do what man told you...or, what you thought you 'should' do...but you did the very works that you were on Earth to do...nothing more...which would crowd out what you were here to do...these works had great effect as a result...without them many other planned works would be jammed'.
I'm not saying that this actual event takes place on the other side...this was a learning tool for me...like the parables. I can forego the public honoring, that without a doubt. My sole desire is to do only what I am here to do...and that by love. If it is only one word...so be it...the least is the greatest. This 'greatest' is not always publicly known...but...very much the simplicity of doing what seems to man to be the least...yet one is greatly fulfilled by fulfilling this perfect plan that the Father has pre-ordained for us. Small acts...if led from obedience to God...are involved in a ripple effect...again..."my word does not go out void." This would not exempt great scaled works either...but all are as nothing, if manmade in any shape or form. Love is central to this all. We all must learn to be 'abased' and also to 'abound'...perhaps I am also stuck on the small things...and I must allow my vision to broaden.
-Sixwings
I'm not saying that this actual event takes place on the other side...this was a learning tool for me...like the parables. I can forego the public honoring, that without a doubt. My sole desire is to do only what I am here to do...and that by love. If it is only one word...so be it...the least is the greatest. This 'greatest' is not always publicly known...but...very much the simplicity of doing what seems to man to be the least...yet one is greatly fulfilled by fulfilling this perfect plan that the Father has pre-ordained for us. Small acts...if led from obedience to God...are involved in a ripple effect...again..."my word does not go out void." This would not exempt great scaled works either...but all are as nothing, if manmade in any shape or form. Love is central to this all. We all must learn to be 'abased' and also to 'abound'...perhaps I am also stuck on the small things...and I must allow my vision to broaden.
-Sixwings
More Spiritual Lessons From The Heavenlies
We are all one...yet each one of us are so different...the snowfall and the snowflake. I was shown this to emphasize more so the 'lilies of the fields'...how if God would value the intricate differsity within every single snowflake...how much more valuable are we are as individuals. I needed this lesson...religion was tearing away at my value before God, and as a result myself. I'll go so far as to say...He told me he needed us (yet He doesn't-paradox again) as much as we need Him. Yep. We are from Him. This further convincing me of Him not desiring any should perish. God will have what He desires! If He can't...our desires are dust! I sware...in the Father's arms...I felt it...not just His love...but the reaction from Him...when I loved Him in return! Abba...PaPa. That this great God...I AM...would even want to be a Father...and know us before we. I also believe in pre-ordained, chosen, and free will choice, and those all working together...and quite poetically and harmoniously. No contradiction. I will write of this further later.
And those traveling downward to enlighten others? Yes. Yes. I will go so far to say I believe in reincarnation. I saw many masters agreeing to come back here to be born in the flesh...this is multiplying in this time now...I would agree that it is the time for spiritual truth and liberation. Also, because we carry everything we are into the levels...and we are given the opportunity to undo...yet, we remember. I can remember, although forgiven, and repented, and delivered from, the worst sin I ever commited...although I am not haunted about this...just remembering gives me the creepy-crawlys. This is also the state in the upper levels. I was shown Elijah and also John the Baptist by Jesus (taken to these realities in the past). I had asked him about the Baptist...and Jesus saying this was Elijah. Elijah fled, in fear, from Ahab's wife...Jezebel. Elijah would forever be able to recall this, although forgiven. We there, in a proper time, are giving the opportunity to make things right, if not done so on earth. The liberation of this is eternal. Zaccheus...was shown to me also concerning this...making things right...restoring in multiples. John did not run from 'Jezebel'. He completely faced her and her passive husband...knowing that he must decrease. The crown on this is a paradox...horrid to us that his head was served on a platter in the court...but John, Elijah, was redeemed in another court...he had an eternal memory overshadowing the one he for so many years and possibly, eternity. Would not the loving Father find this good? I certainly don't believe we come back as an ant. But for very specific eternal needs and blessings. Only through the co-existance of the levels here on earth could this be an opportunity for us to make right, things for our blessing of eternal existance. So this co-existance is profitable for many reasons. Without a doubt the masters come, in spiritual form also. Elijah and Moses...to Jesus. Once, when my husband and I, and our daughter was in prayer together...we knew, all three of us, that Jesus and a handful of the masters were present. We did not see them, but we knew...all of us knew. There followed, a major awakening of memories from the other side and liberation for us...concerning many things. My daughter has even known her 'angels' name..Michael...and she says she has known him for centuries...a trusted friend...one who if he makes a vow to another will give his life before breaking that vow. Perhaps the reincarnation topic is too much... I would very much understand...had I not seen this shown to me...I would not be able to accept it...I have come to understand this as being another way of the Father's great love toward us.
Tongues (spiritual prayer language)? I received tongues alone with Jesus...my first awakening...I didn't even know what tongues were! Some of my family members took me to their pastor to explain that I had been possessed of a devil! It did not phase me. I went into a 'full gospel-spirit filled' congregation. I sensed that the laying on of hands by a man was not a particularly good idea...sometimes could be disasterous. I probably would not use my prayer language today if I had not received this from Jesus. I saw him in my living room...was 'slain in the spirit'( not knowing what that was either)...when I came up to my feet (rather the sofa)...I was speaking in tongues. I should have known better...I did not need any religion, that was made clear in this beginning.
- Sixwings
And those traveling downward to enlighten others? Yes. Yes. I will go so far to say I believe in reincarnation. I saw many masters agreeing to come back here to be born in the flesh...this is multiplying in this time now...I would agree that it is the time for spiritual truth and liberation. Also, because we carry everything we are into the levels...and we are given the opportunity to undo...yet, we remember. I can remember, although forgiven, and repented, and delivered from, the worst sin I ever commited...although I am not haunted about this...just remembering gives me the creepy-crawlys. This is also the state in the upper levels. I was shown Elijah and also John the Baptist by Jesus (taken to these realities in the past). I had asked him about the Baptist...and Jesus saying this was Elijah. Elijah fled, in fear, from Ahab's wife...Jezebel. Elijah would forever be able to recall this, although forgiven. We there, in a proper time, are giving the opportunity to make things right, if not done so on earth. The liberation of this is eternal. Zaccheus...was shown to me also concerning this...making things right...restoring in multiples. John did not run from 'Jezebel'. He completely faced her and her passive husband...knowing that he must decrease. The crown on this is a paradox...horrid to us that his head was served on a platter in the court...but John, Elijah, was redeemed in another court...he had an eternal memory overshadowing the one he for so many years and possibly, eternity. Would not the loving Father find this good? I certainly don't believe we come back as an ant. But for very specific eternal needs and blessings. Only through the co-existance of the levels here on earth could this be an opportunity for us to make right, things for our blessing of eternal existance. So this co-existance is profitable for many reasons. Without a doubt the masters come, in spiritual form also. Elijah and Moses...to Jesus. Once, when my husband and I, and our daughter was in prayer together...we knew, all three of us, that Jesus and a handful of the masters were present. We did not see them, but we knew...all of us knew. There followed, a major awakening of memories from the other side and liberation for us...concerning many things. My daughter has even known her 'angels' name..Michael...and she says she has known him for centuries...a trusted friend...one who if he makes a vow to another will give his life before breaking that vow. Perhaps the reincarnation topic is too much... I would very much understand...had I not seen this shown to me...I would not be able to accept it...I have come to understand this as being another way of the Father's great love toward us.
Tongues (spiritual prayer language)? I received tongues alone with Jesus...my first awakening...I didn't even know what tongues were! Some of my family members took me to their pastor to explain that I had been possessed of a devil! It did not phase me. I went into a 'full gospel-spirit filled' congregation. I sensed that the laying on of hands by a man was not a particularly good idea...sometimes could be disasterous. I probably would not use my prayer language today if I had not received this from Jesus. I saw him in my living room...was 'slain in the spirit'( not knowing what that was either)...when I came up to my feet (rather the sofa)...I was speaking in tongues. I should have known better...I did not need any religion, that was made clear in this beginning.
- Sixwings
Thoughts...And More Learned Through My Near Death Experience
I felt I should express these thoughts...given what I have written you. Thoughts being powerful....blatant scapegoating and subtle scapegoating...the levels on the otherside...levels on earth also. On the otherside, the boundaries established by God are immovable without love and truth...no one elevates, or evolves, until ready for the next level and the population is in 'agreements' on each level. Only the Masters are evolved enough to enter into these lower levels and be also to absorb any 'darkness' that would enter into their light. Some may enter but would require a 'washing'. On earth...we do not have these boundaries firmly established segregating the levels within our population. If we are not evolved enough, these thoughts projected whether known (by the act of voicing/or physically acted out) or unknown penetrate us...wounds. Because of our oneness. Where most of us deal with the known...the subtle unknown thoughts projected toward us...can be felt...but more than not, mistakenly, that it is ourselves as the source...empty 'works', leaving self-condemnation, won't be fulfilled. It would be the same as one believing themselves to be sloppy when in fact another has slung mud on your back. It can breed a 'running in circles' belief system. 'Deliver us from evil'...an example of washing this overflow from others off ourselves. Of course, this is separate from our own undoings, but it can make our undoings much more difficult. This is why having had an NDE and after having been in that experience only in the population of pure love...it is so much more difficult than to receive in this realm. I must add that we exist here with those in the lowest of levels on the otherside. It's much like being de-religioned and having to stay in those boundaries most of your existance here and daily (I use this only metaphorically). We also believe that this is part of why healing is not always obtained in this earth realm. Simply put...contamination! Which the levels on the otherside have boundaries firmly placed. Upon returning from this Love...healing is usually brought back on a large scale. My husband only had a few stitches above his eye and an eyepatch for a couple of days...suffered a slight concusion!???? None of the medical staff could believe this with the impact he took. Both of us received healings so thoroughly that our appearances were much more younger...years younger. Not at all uncommon with other NDE'ers. We too haven't fully figured out why we can't maintain healing and what of obvious regenerated youth? We know, of course, this is first and foremost, our need for evolving in the love of God...and undoing ourselves. But we believe the above has responsibility also...do to the differences on segregation. We even have discussed how this 'segregation' which is appropriate on the other side could have been heard in part and known to be true...but the part was not enough...and segregation in its worst forms took on a permission & will from God himself, in this world.
Interesting...my NDE occurred after months of praying to understand what God's love really was! Religion's contradictions didn't add up about this love of the Father. Months...nearly a year and I wouldn't give up, but grew more & more earnest with it. The Vortexes...Job...the whirlwind?...we know, but without full understanding, that these vortexes, which is part also of the tunnel...much like a tornado...sucking you through but at speeds beyond comprehension, has a lot to do with purifying...healing would be part of this. Job was healed.
- Sixwings
Interesting...my NDE occurred after months of praying to understand what God's love really was! Religion's contradictions didn't add up about this love of the Father. Months...nearly a year and I wouldn't give up, but grew more & more earnest with it. The Vortexes...Job...the whirlwind?...we know, but without full understanding, that these vortexes, which is part also of the tunnel...much like a tornado...sucking you through but at speeds beyond comprehension, has a lot to do with purifying...healing would be part of this. Job was healed.
- Sixwings
Know That God Is One Not To Be Feared As Religion Teaches
We both are so grateful for our NDE's...we have received the chance, to undo our fear and doubts, while yet still here in this earth realm, instead of staying in the level we would have had to stay in, if we were not allowed to return. The life reviews, however they are revealed, are not the sole experience of all the levels of the hells. Our NDE's allowed us to escape that which we were destined for. Those levels contain the agony of our own conditions, and that, mainly, the fear of God, which separates us from His great love that fulfills all law. The time spent in those agonies, (and we should capitalize that word) is not eternal, but, we have already expressed that in only a moment of viewing ourselves, was horrible. My husband & I both have spoken to each other many times...how it was, and is, worse than, what religion says hell is. Here is how. If one was under the belief, after having died, that they were stuck in this one room hell, for eternity, with atrocities upon atrocities being committed upon them...it wouldn't take long to engage in the self-same behavior, soon forgetting anything of goodness. After all, no one has any chance out of it. But when in a Hell that one is aware of, inclusive of progressing out of, and eventually, into the highest places in the heavenlies, (and this is so on the otherside) is actually more hellish than 'religion's hell'. For one may be chained to a wall, and be hungry, with food just out of reach, and knowing that there is an answer to his dilemma. But in the other (religion's hell) without any offering or sight of, or hope of food, one's hunger is filled by the only offering that is there, and readily available. Much like cannibalism. (6wings11- as I saw the light of God afar off...knowing at that moment, my separation, and the agony of this...and that separation was fully known...the worst was, that, I would spend a prison sentence, without specified time, before I could enter the valley...the court yard before the door, and knowing this, because, of my fear of God's love)(6wings--I went to the Father, and this is most important...not because I went forward to an altar call...nor any other work I had done...but I had been praying for months and months, concerning the contradictions I saw in the scriptures, and could not shake my heart, or mind from them...of the fear of God...over these months, my prayers were reduced to..."Please, reveal to me, the love of the Father"..."Please, I desire this love"...this is why, I know, I entered in to his presence upon dying). Religion speaks of Hell. One shot...one place for all. Seeing one's own self, in the purest of truth, as God sees us, is traumatic beyond description. (6wings11- upon this revelation my hair stood up on end as if having stuck my finger in an electrical outlet, and as I have said, even the very ground that I was on, was terrifying) Religion, as long as we place ourselves under it's doctrines & personal desires, leads us to believe that we will escape all this, and full sail, right into one specific heavenly environment. Or, one hellish environment. Why then aren't these same believers of this doctrine, not also petitioning the states for one level of prison sentence and environment, for all crimes committed in this nation? The bread thief and serial killer, should they not be bunkmates according to this doctrine, each serving life sentences for their crimes? Or is Earth safer, and more Godly, than the heavenlies? Governed by more compassionate men than God is?
We know that our testimony, which we have experienced, cannot be proven to be true...in that...we truly were 'there.' This is not our purpose in writing of these experiences...to prove our experiences. It is our hope that we have provoked thoughts on subjects, that we ourselves have questioned in times past, but found ourselves repressed with. Most importantly, we hope that all who read this will not fear our loving Father, and to make your continuous prayer... that His Love would be shed abroad in your hearts...if nothing else is to be believed.
-Sixwings & Sixwings11
We know that our testimony, which we have experienced, cannot be proven to be true...in that...we truly were 'there.' This is not our purpose in writing of these experiences...to prove our experiences. It is our hope that we have provoked thoughts on subjects, that we ourselves have questioned in times past, but found ourselves repressed with. Most importantly, we hope that all who read this will not fear our loving Father, and to make your continuous prayer... that His Love would be shed abroad in your hearts...if nothing else is to be believed.
-Sixwings & Sixwings11
More On Who Jesus Is...
I grew up believing Jesus was God and through the Holy Trinity we are judged, juried, executed and sent to hell or purgatory, if we were lucky. Catholicism to the max. It was a mortal sin to miss one mass on sunday even if you were sick. I had so many lies and false representations drilled into me that I could'nt contain living water. I have since learned to "think" for myself and am encouraged to do so, in place of the "don't think" "if you had brains you would be dangerous" mentalities from the priests and nuns who instructed me (nine years of catholic schooling) and my family at the time. We were even discouraged from reading the bible for ourselves. They would "tell" us what to believe and what not to. I have come to the understanding that Jesus is my "Big Brother", friend and confidant, my instructor, my lawyer, psychiatrist and savior. To be worshipped; I think not. To be praised and thanked, yes! Like the star Quarterback helping the "team" reach the goal line... hurray Jesus!!! for filling me with hope when all I see is despair...hurray and thanks Jesus!!! for leading me towards the love of my Father God...hip hip hurray and thanks to Jesus... amen!!! He is as He says He is and who He says "I Am" is. He is a son as we all are God's sons. He is firstborn though, and carries the responsibility of this 'Age'. There is a great responsibility given to the firstborn of any "family" and in most cases has to do with leading (Shepherd) the rest of the "children" and sharing in their formation within the "family". Being a shepherd does not give absolute proof of being the "owner" of a flock. But a wise owner of a flock would be prudent in choosing who would care for his flock. These same truths are in the scriptures.
-Sixwings11
-Sixwings11
Who Is Jesus? Is Jesus To Be Worshipped?
He is without a doubt, our Savior. Allow me to define this further. As with anyone who saves another's life from a 'hellish death'...Jesus saved us. As LOVE, in it's perfected definition, would always do...and in agreement with the Father...we were given a second chance to undo our fears of God, and to do so here on earth. Those fears due to misconceptions and literal lies. We believe this is one of the reasons the accounts of NDE's are multiplying...and we believe they will multiply more so...giving evidence to this great LOVE the Father has for us all. I must add that each NDE is personal...proving one has truly gone to the "otherside" is without a doubt impossible. However, the multiplying of NDE's and with the greatest majority claiming LOVE itself, and like no other, is what is always primary, and without a doubt. And this gives great evidence of the Father's LOVE, and also, of the levels which are on the other side. We both fell in love with Jesus...that bond is solid. He taught us that we should have no fear of our Father...our Father, whom our souls had cried out for all our lives here on earth! Whose shoes Jesus cannot fill! Whose love has been so blasphemed...religion has degraded our Father...our God...beneath man's. Our Father is accused falsely of doing what father's on earth would not even think of doing to their own beloved children...and would we in darkness be even equal to God?...let alone be above Him??? How is it that a man could call these things love to his children and if he did what he accuses God, Our Wondrous Father, of doing...would he not call these very things abusive hatred? Crimes? Deserving of imprisonment? J esus who showed us the Father, being our Savior took on value that is immeasurable to us. Is he to be worshipped? His purpose was clear to return the hearts of the children to the Father. We both have said numerous times that our daughter Saved us. We have no doubt she was pre-ordained to remind us of the lessons we were given on the other side and to help us undo many things holding us in bondage from those lessons. We're personally crazy about her, too. But worship? She would be apalled. Jesus would be also. Many save us through our lives...for many different needs...and our love is bound greater through this always. But again we do not worship others. Jesus was in agreement with the Father...to bring us back to our most tenderhearted, gentle, loving Father! Come boldly...not because one needs courage to face the Father...but that religion has so deceived us into fear of Him. I have one and one only first & foremost desire upon entering the otherside again...to run and take a flying leap into My Father's arms and boldly so, regardless of what anyone else might think of this! So are you correct in what your thoughts are concerning worshipping Jesus?? I have no doubt! It just may have something to do with why I went from Jesus' arms and landed with a thud into the 'throne room'! (Sixwings)
Why, I, (sixwings11) had seen first hand that the Father was 'afar off' and I had one thing, as confused as I was figured out...I didn't fall on my knees to Jesus! I knew he had the keys to my needs...the door...not the ROOM! That's an awesome older brother! One who is the truest friend!
- Sixwings & Sixwings11
Why, I, (sixwings11) had seen first hand that the Father was 'afar off' and I had one thing, as confused as I was figured out...I didn't fall on my knees to Jesus! I knew he had the keys to my needs...the door...not the ROOM! That's an awesome older brother! One who is the truest friend!
- Sixwings & Sixwings11
Sixwings' Life Review & Sixwings11 NDE...
I'm struggling with verbalizing what has been locked inside me for so many years. I feel I should write first more concerning my life review. This NDE was first and foremost my wakeup...I saw myself in my nakedness fully when I went through my 'life review'...me, the 'Spirit filled, Church going, tithing, plus love offering, Christian'...this was not a pretty sight. This was also my Hell...I am my own Hell. When Jesus said entering into Hell...this was it...myself...this life review...quite frankly, it is worse than what religion describes as Hell...I'm not saying this to place fear in anyone. I would add that this life review took a time not of Hell's eternity...but...in the twinkling of an eye. Grace without a doubt took on a completely different meaning and value to me. Eternal hell...this is the fact that who we are upon the time of leaving this realm we do take with us into eternity...Jesus isn't up there with a magic wand turning us into all perfection and all knowledge upon arrival. The Love there honors all...we don't breathe air there we breathe in Love. Is that fantastic! Your 'spiritual skin pores' breathe this in also...without toxicity...but love released. No one views anyone as beneathe them or boy, 'didn't they mess up.' Whatever we go through is viewed as being courageous in this life. Didn't Christ take sin upon his own self in this realm? We all do...we even take on other's too...being scapegoats...without knowing this...there's few of us who have not experienced having to transform this within ourselves...sometimes this is extremely difficult. Was not Jesus courageous for this and honored? So are we. As he is our example. Hell is a prison. Jesus spoke of being in prison until the last debt was paid...he paid this debt. The question arises that if we aren't tapped with a magic wand and we arrive there as we are, what about the criminals? The insane? There are levels...and anyone can grow and learn within these levels. When I wrote about the blackness and levels outside the tunnel earlier...and I was terrified of going there, I'll say again, I was also terrified of the Father...at that point. These levels, which are outside the tunnel of light...are places of darkness...varying depths of darkness...dependent on the depth of fear of God. Yes, I said I was terrified of the Father, but prior to my NDE I was also seeking out the truth concerning this very fear. A person who is acting out violent crimes...which would also be lacking in intimacy in any way...would have fear magnified much more so. Jesus spoke to me of Charlie Manson at this point. His loving tenderness in speaking of him quite shocked me. Jesus knew also that I had close relatives who were intimate with someone who arrived on the Tate crime scene...therefore we heard the unpublished gruesome details within hours. I could not imagine anyone doing such atrocities to another and 'have a chance in hell,' of escaping Hell. Now, hearing Jesus speaking of 'My, Charlie'???? With such tenderness??? He said this to me...'you wonder at my love for him...at how dear he is to me...it is because I know why he did what he did...I knew Charlie from the beginning...I was there when he was a child...I know the pain that his sin is rooted in...I know his pain.' I have read much on NDE's...I have read one widely publicized book that states that Hell is reserved for the worst of people, like Satanists. I agree with much of this author's writings...but having experienced an NDE myself, I also understand that we can make an assumption or misunderstand what we might only glimpse on the otherside...and how difficult it can be to integrate it through false worldly beliefs in the world. I also am fully aware that this that I write here is not going to be popular in the least. But I can't cover this up. Jesus did come for the whole world...that would include anyone. Charlie Manson was the leader of a Satanic Cult. There is a level in this darkness provided for healing, growth, and fears dissolving. Then entering into the next level. No 'altar call' necessary. Jesus didn't have one altar call. He knows how people can be saved from themselves.
To illustrate this further...my husband (Sixwings11) gives me permission to write his NDE. He was raised in a harsh religious environment. The abuse in God's name was not spared in the least. In fact, it was made known that he was getting off easy...they were 'intervening' and being merciful compared to what God really wanted done to him to 'discipline'...like Moses standing for the Israelites so they wouldn't be wiped out. Needless to say he was fully saturated with the fear of God. He escaped into drugs and alcohol as a result. One night driving home, his brakes gave out on a steep hill. At 90 mph he hit a telephone pole. The next thing he knew he was being lead by someone up a hill in a dark place...from there he could see a valley of many people reaching out to the light in the distance...they were dancing and singing and praising God and they were bathed in this light...this level was next to entering in...but surrounding them in this valley there were these statue-type figures, with their backs to all of this, about 8' apart. These being surrounded by darkness (outer darkness?) My husband was led up to one of these (by a stiff arm and hand placed in the middle of his back)...he saw this clay type coffin statue as himself...he knew he would be going into this...this would not be permanent...but until he learned and healed, he knew he would not be released into the next 'valley'. He saw himself...and it was...as was me...Hell. He immediately cried out for Jesus and turned around and there Jesus was! (where can I go that you aren't there) He leaped on Jesus'...arms and legs wrapped around him! Not wanting even to touch the ground that this figure, himself, was on. In those moments...Jesus comforted, and ministered to him, and spoke to him on returning to this earth realm. My husband during this time would not budge from his position on Jesus! He didn't want to go anywhere at all...only right there clinging completely on Jesus! (Forgive me...this is extremely humorous to me...his wife...we're talking about a very large man here! I have known his side of Mr. Tuffguy! Jesus must have superhero strengths!) Next...he was over his body which was out of the car and being attended to by EMT's...one had paddles in his hands...he didn't want to re-enter his body...then he heard 'I'll try one more time'. So he entered.
We did not know each other at this time...but we did have both our NDE's within 2 months of each other?! The moment we met...we both recognized each other...the 'don't I know you?' quickly led to our memory of us both being pre-ordained to be life partners...which we lightly treaded on at first, although we were both knowing this within our own selves. Pertaining to the darkness. There is much report of young children experiencing this darkness. They speak of the love in the darkness. My husband wanted me to add this...in the darkness the same love I previously described as breathing in, is there in the darkness also. I am the light in the darkness. The light is Love. Healing, nurturing Love.
-Sixwings
To illustrate this further...my husband (Sixwings11) gives me permission to write his NDE. He was raised in a harsh religious environment. The abuse in God's name was not spared in the least. In fact, it was made known that he was getting off easy...they were 'intervening' and being merciful compared to what God really wanted done to him to 'discipline'...like Moses standing for the Israelites so they wouldn't be wiped out. Needless to say he was fully saturated with the fear of God. He escaped into drugs and alcohol as a result. One night driving home, his brakes gave out on a steep hill. At 90 mph he hit a telephone pole. The next thing he knew he was being lead by someone up a hill in a dark place...from there he could see a valley of many people reaching out to the light in the distance...they were dancing and singing and praising God and they were bathed in this light...this level was next to entering in...but surrounding them in this valley there were these statue-type figures, with their backs to all of this, about 8' apart. These being surrounded by darkness (outer darkness?) My husband was led up to one of these (by a stiff arm and hand placed in the middle of his back)...he saw this clay type coffin statue as himself...he knew he would be going into this...this would not be permanent...but until he learned and healed, he knew he would not be released into the next 'valley'. He saw himself...and it was...as was me...Hell. He immediately cried out for Jesus and turned around and there Jesus was! (where can I go that you aren't there) He leaped on Jesus'...arms and legs wrapped around him! Not wanting even to touch the ground that this figure, himself, was on. In those moments...Jesus comforted, and ministered to him, and spoke to him on returning to this earth realm. My husband during this time would not budge from his position on Jesus! He didn't want to go anywhere at all...only right there clinging completely on Jesus! (Forgive me...this is extremely humorous to me...his wife...we're talking about a very large man here! I have known his side of Mr. Tuffguy! Jesus must have superhero strengths!) Next...he was over his body which was out of the car and being attended to by EMT's...one had paddles in his hands...he didn't want to re-enter his body...then he heard 'I'll try one more time'. So he entered.
We did not know each other at this time...but we did have both our NDE's within 2 months of each other?! The moment we met...we both recognized each other...the 'don't I know you?' quickly led to our memory of us both being pre-ordained to be life partners...which we lightly treaded on at first, although we were both knowing this within our own selves. Pertaining to the darkness. There is much report of young children experiencing this darkness. They speak of the love in the darkness. My husband wanted me to add this...in the darkness the same love I previously described as breathing in, is there in the darkness also. I am the light in the darkness. The light is Love. Healing, nurturing Love.
-Sixwings
Monday, December 29, 2003
Jesus' Death And The Scapegoat
Just read part of God's Garden...love a gift...what Jesus' death was really about...this is why I'm struggling with writing my NDE. Feeling self doubts about writing. I am trying to express how Jesus' death was an example of being scapegoated...only. He, the beginning...the 'debt' is built in...I will have a statement or word and then I will speak or write it and my meaning or perception of this can be entirely different than what is traditionally interpreted. Talk about re-inventing language! I really got one thing about Christ's death on the otherside...scapegoat. How we can put light on our own experiences of being scapegoated. Most of our problems can be derived from holding this inside ourselves. Because of our oneness...thoughts can transfer blame to another. Thoughts are so powerful. My husband (who previously wrote about) and I both understood and saw vortexes on the other side. Not an uncommon sight for an NDE'er. Because we both understand this oneness and how others thoughts/or their actions toward another can have a most subtle but effective shadow on ourselves, we do use this vortex....with the intent of clearing and healing. A 'forgiveness', in its own way. For us it would be a tool much like one would use oil. Just a consensual 'help' to absorb into the light. Even though I know differently...I still say to myself 'by his stripes we are healed'...Love heals us...not his scourging. How could Jesus heal others prior to his scourging otherwise?!
- Sixwings
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Sixwings' Near Death Experience And Angels...
Angels? I can't begin to describe to you what I saw in that 'throne room'...there were 'creatures'...the most beautiful creatures imaginable. I just looked up John's Revelations...Chap.4:7. This is John's description...and see Chap 5:11. There are probably more...I haven't studied Revelation since I had my NDE!? I Knew from that time on, that I didn't need to worrry about it anymore. I Knew the truth about myself and why I really studied this particular book. Worry...or rather fear...and somehow I believed in studying them I could control what was pre-ordained for me to go through or not?! My interest is sparking me to begin studying it again for different reasons now! These 'creatures' John calls beasts...that strikes our modern minds as with a monstrous appearance...but, they are truly beautiful. I Knew at the time they had abilities that the 'angels' did not have. I knew that there were many more creatures...Rev. 5:11 gives some agreement to this. The angels with the six wings in the 'throne room' were different than the ones who had six wings and lit the tunnel. They were more solid..not so much as an appearance of a 'lightbulb' form. They had exquisite coloring and garments. I also understood that as on earth there are so many wonderful creatures...why shouldn't there also be on the other side?! Jesus even spoke to my amazement at this...he said there were actually unicorns on earth and are now extinct, because the horns were believed by men to possess magical powers. The myths surrounding them are just that. (Rhinos are facing this same thing today for their horns!) I knew & understood that 'mankind' could act 'as angels' also. I truly believe that many encounters we have with what we believe are traditional angels are actually those from the other side...and not limited to direct 'relatives' to a person. I truly believe 'the elders' ( who I also saw and who Jesus was standing with in 'the throne room'...I heard 'the Masters' and 'the Ancient Ones' in terming who they were) visit us at those major moments of spiritual awakenings throughout our lives. I believe the angels who visit us on earth are also messengers. There were also cheribums. Like the beasts or creatures, I could not discribe these to you. Even re-reading John's account of the beasts...I have no memory recall other than...they were exquisitely colored and magnificant. No bird on earth is arrayed like these! I've been asked to describe Jesus...what color is his hair?? Well, like his eyes...the color of love. That's exactly why I can't describe him physically! Just about all of us have been there...In Love...Ah!...So completely in love we didn't even notice a flaw...those minor physical flaws that all of us have...no...our beloved was perfect...
As to the resurrection and people would be "as the angels???" I think that's loaded! As I believe many many scriptures may mean something and then again something else...but...without denying the former. I'm going to speak plainly here so it is my hope that I do not offend anyone. This was stated by Jesus when questioned about marriage unions continuing in the afterlife. With the similar belief as Joseph Smith...conceiving and birthing on the other side. As the angels...I believe this to be somewhat metaphorical. The angels don't copulate. They are one in themselves. I believe our true state is male/female. This really blew me away upon meeting the Father in the throne room...after first knowing that I had nothing to fear in or of 'Him'...It was completely clear to me that He was male/female in one. I could not speak this to anyone for a very long time. Not that I doubted it...I didn't want to start a war! Now I can say it and take the arrows if they fly. When I understood this, it was so right. Maybe because I'm a woman...but to be known by God as not another PET...that's how a lot of men view women...and use God to back them up. This elevated what I knew of myself and where I belonged, in a deeply core sense. I believe men need this just as much...to understand that Male/Female. In years to follow...when faced with hard issues and I'd ask for help...I would so often receive...'What would a man do?' This taken into balance with my female...brought the answers to do and solve whatever seemed insurmountable. However in this realm it can become a balancing act! In fulfilling this oneness there would be no physical pull for oneness, sexually. Isn't it even interesting how a couple who one or both don't mature into a heart loving union carries on with the hunt through others? This physical acting out of our core need for our original state of oneness. I realize that the thought of sex not being in the afterlife is extremely disheartening to many. I can say forth right that with every level of encounter on the otherside, the fulfillment upon and in you is beyond, and without measure, any encounter experienced on earth. Although you are who you are when you arrive on the other side, the filling is continuous...and that balance of male/female is part of this. I'll put it this way...the desire is simply and continuously filled....as the angels are also filled. Now, I am going to say that I didn't enter all the levels...and there is a possibility that there is a different situation going on! But somehow I tend to think we won't be craving the flesh there, or in any need of the opposite sex! We'll already be both. This is most harsh when having to return to this realm...I know some NDE'ers who have a difficult time craving that oneness when they enter back into their sexualized state...some go off the deep end with this for awhile. The body itself is difficult to re-enter...you could be a stick and feel weighted down and constricted. It has been years...I've not gotten over it...every a.m. I have to accept being in this body and search my truth for gratitude for this. There is experiencing being one with the Whole...and then to find much rejection of that in this realm. Then you must deal with self-condemnation...after all, you spoke to God and face to face...you know...and yet you find yourself not Being. Many NDE'ers speak of how much those on the other side greatly honor those of us who enter this realm...I understood that also from those on the other side. I without a doubt knew just why, soon after re-entering this realm. I'm saying this because...we get all kinds of help here...all the time...they know we need it here! Regardless of their differences or stations on the other side, each one is for us, for a purpose that they can guide or govern and that for the greater purpose! Jesus is omnipresent...
Now I'm going to throw out a real monkey wrench!!! When my daughter was very young she would talk about spiritual things that would blow an adult's mind! How did she even know this stuff? She would rather sit with adults and enter into a mature conversation with them...especially about spirit. She would often stretch and then say, 'my wings feel better'...at first I thought not much of it...the imagination of a child...but she continued...she didn't outgrow this phase. I finally asked her if she didn't think she was getting a little old to me, believing she had wings? She looked me square in the eyes and said...'what are you talking about?...I have wings. Don't you know anyone can have wings?' Now, I didn't accept this and I can't say I do now. It is one of those on the shelf things for me. Let me say this...we are talking here about a child who informed us that Santa did not exist the moment she could speak clearly...she knew...and she also knew that it was important to others and she would not disappoint them...but she wanted us to know that she knew better; and please stop acting like this with her. I actually considered taking this child to a psychologist! But she stopped saying anything about it. Oh...about 3 months ago I brought up to her how she use to talk about stretching her wings. She just laughed...and I was relieved. Then she says...'one day we all find out things that we thought were true to be untrue and things that are untrue to be true'...and she smiled at me. I said...'you still believe you have wings?'...she said...'no mama...I know I do and it's OK that you don't believe me'....'But you'd feel better if you did...because you'd stretch them and wouldn't feel so cramped in your body'...'I would say that in front of you because I was trying to help...I know you've never gotten use to your earth clothes...and it does help to allow your full spirit to stretch and soar sometimes'...'Didn't it free you up when you departed your body for the time you did?' So...the school counselor calls me...would like us to come in and speak with him concerning our daughter. Long story...shortened...he's a psychologist...I'm thinking...oh, no! He became a school counselor...giving up his practice...after his son was about school age. This counselor conceived the same type of child! Who informed his father (who was an athiest) by the time he could speak clearly, that he remembers his conversations with God! The man has been on a Spirit Path since! He tells us...as a psychologist I find nothing but health in your daughter. As a spiritual man...I wouldn't doubt anything she'd tell me! I would like your permission if she could speak at one of our group meetings dealing with the kids that seem to be coming in more and more like these kids!? I've noticed your daughter for some time...a couple of the kids, including my son, recognized her. Some monkey wrench?! Maybe we are all to progress into angels!! Maybe we all may have six wings one day! Or, maybe it is part of our original state...
-Sixwings
As to the resurrection and people would be "as the angels???" I think that's loaded! As I believe many many scriptures may mean something and then again something else...but...without denying the former. I'm going to speak plainly here so it is my hope that I do not offend anyone. This was stated by Jesus when questioned about marriage unions continuing in the afterlife. With the similar belief as Joseph Smith...conceiving and birthing on the other side. As the angels...I believe this to be somewhat metaphorical. The angels don't copulate. They are one in themselves. I believe our true state is male/female. This really blew me away upon meeting the Father in the throne room...after first knowing that I had nothing to fear in or of 'Him'...It was completely clear to me that He was male/female in one. I could not speak this to anyone for a very long time. Not that I doubted it...I didn't want to start a war! Now I can say it and take the arrows if they fly. When I understood this, it was so right. Maybe because I'm a woman...but to be known by God as not another PET...that's how a lot of men view women...and use God to back them up. This elevated what I knew of myself and where I belonged, in a deeply core sense. I believe men need this just as much...to understand that Male/Female. In years to follow...when faced with hard issues and I'd ask for help...I would so often receive...'What would a man do?' This taken into balance with my female...brought the answers to do and solve whatever seemed insurmountable. However in this realm it can become a balancing act! In fulfilling this oneness there would be no physical pull for oneness, sexually. Isn't it even interesting how a couple who one or both don't mature into a heart loving union carries on with the hunt through others? This physical acting out of our core need for our original state of oneness. I realize that the thought of sex not being in the afterlife is extremely disheartening to many. I can say forth right that with every level of encounter on the otherside, the fulfillment upon and in you is beyond, and without measure, any encounter experienced on earth. Although you are who you are when you arrive on the other side, the filling is continuous...and that balance of male/female is part of this. I'll put it this way...the desire is simply and continuously filled....as the angels are also filled. Now, I am going to say that I didn't enter all the levels...and there is a possibility that there is a different situation going on! But somehow I tend to think we won't be craving the flesh there, or in any need of the opposite sex! We'll already be both. This is most harsh when having to return to this realm...I know some NDE'ers who have a difficult time craving that oneness when they enter back into their sexualized state...some go off the deep end with this for awhile. The body itself is difficult to re-enter...you could be a stick and feel weighted down and constricted. It has been years...I've not gotten over it...every a.m. I have to accept being in this body and search my truth for gratitude for this. There is experiencing being one with the Whole...and then to find much rejection of that in this realm. Then you must deal with self-condemnation...after all, you spoke to God and face to face...you know...and yet you find yourself not Being. Many NDE'ers speak of how much those on the other side greatly honor those of us who enter this realm...I understood that also from those on the other side. I without a doubt knew just why, soon after re-entering this realm. I'm saying this because...we get all kinds of help here...all the time...they know we need it here! Regardless of their differences or stations on the other side, each one is for us, for a purpose that they can guide or govern and that for the greater purpose! Jesus is omnipresent...
Now I'm going to throw out a real monkey wrench!!! When my daughter was very young she would talk about spiritual things that would blow an adult's mind! How did she even know this stuff? She would rather sit with adults and enter into a mature conversation with them...especially about spirit. She would often stretch and then say, 'my wings feel better'...at first I thought not much of it...the imagination of a child...but she continued...she didn't outgrow this phase. I finally asked her if she didn't think she was getting a little old to me, believing she had wings? She looked me square in the eyes and said...'what are you talking about?...I have wings. Don't you know anyone can have wings?' Now, I didn't accept this and I can't say I do now. It is one of those on the shelf things for me. Let me say this...we are talking here about a child who informed us that Santa did not exist the moment she could speak clearly...she knew...and she also knew that it was important to others and she would not disappoint them...but she wanted us to know that she knew better; and please stop acting like this with her. I actually considered taking this child to a psychologist! But she stopped saying anything about it. Oh...about 3 months ago I brought up to her how she use to talk about stretching her wings. She just laughed...and I was relieved. Then she says...'one day we all find out things that we thought were true to be untrue and things that are untrue to be true'...and she smiled at me. I said...'you still believe you have wings?'...she said...'no mama...I know I do and it's OK that you don't believe me'....'But you'd feel better if you did...because you'd stretch them and wouldn't feel so cramped in your body'...'I would say that in front of you because I was trying to help...I know you've never gotten use to your earth clothes...and it does help to allow your full spirit to stretch and soar sometimes'...'Didn't it free you up when you departed your body for the time you did?' So...the school counselor calls me...would like us to come in and speak with him concerning our daughter. Long story...shortened...he's a psychologist...I'm thinking...oh, no! He became a school counselor...giving up his practice...after his son was about school age. This counselor conceived the same type of child! Who informed his father (who was an athiest) by the time he could speak clearly, that he remembers his conversations with God! The man has been on a Spirit Path since! He tells us...as a psychologist I find nothing but health in your daughter. As a spiritual man...I wouldn't doubt anything she'd tell me! I would like your permission if she could speak at one of our group meetings dealing with the kids that seem to be coming in more and more like these kids!? I've noticed your daughter for some time...a couple of the kids, including my son, recognized her. Some monkey wrench?! Maybe we are all to progress into angels!! Maybe we all may have six wings one day! Or, maybe it is part of our original state...
-Sixwings
Spiritual Insights From Sixwings11
As you know , we both have had N.D.E.'s and it is real difficult to integrate the immeasurable amounts of knowledge we "witnessed" . 1 Corinthians 13:12, "For now we see through a glass darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known." We both sense that Paul also had N.D.E.'s, for how would he have the knowledge of knowing the differences between the dark, shrouded "knowing" here, in comparison to seeing face to face. He saw the Lord face to face here for a moment and was blinded, Then he removed himself for twelve years to saturate himself in the scriptures. During the numerous stonings, he 'died' and came back. He basically said "folk's I'm just here for you, I could go anytime I want." Paul saw a difference in his N.D.E.'s that when face to face on the other side you are filled with every possible facet of everything you could ever dream of knowing in less than a heartbeat. Anyhow, back to these thoughts, ( I owe you my N.D.E. and will post it soon!). I will try to make sense here as best as I possibly can, everything that is here on this Earth(physical, material, etc...) has been first in spirit; "on Earth AS it is in Heaven." Blessings are birthed first in the spirit, then are manifest (birthed) here . Our spirits were first birthed in Heaven. We proceed out of the mouth of our Father, our very being, was first a thought of God's. Awesome!! Then our spirit joins up with the "spiritual mansion" He has 'knitted" together for us in our mother's womb. When we outlive this earthly "mansion" our spirit cannot "go out void" we enter (possibly) our heavenly garment and/or dwell within the "heavenly mansion" prepared for us. We can definitely "clear the air " of thought forms or energy imprints left behind from the past. I use a visualization technique (sounds insane) but I send a white tornado through our home and "cleanse the place from top to bottom". It really does "scrub the place clean". Then I ask for an infilling of the Holy Spirit to seal the work. In all things, putting love into all that your hands touch, does make it prosperous. A thought comes from when Jesus spoke to Nicodemus, that we should gain an understanding of this world and how it works and then we will be empowered to understand the heavenly things. After my N.D.E. I was travelling down a road near O'Hare airport and I saw many beams of light in the distance above a residential area and asked the Lord what they were. "Prayers" was His reply. Isn't that incredible!!. I saw the substance of things hoped for, I saw faith in action. The revelations of God are always amazing, and I feel as though I could write book after book on the many I have witnessed.
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Sixwings' Near Death Experience...Continued
You may be wondering why I am called "Sixwings"? This is from my NDE. Traveling through the 'tunnel' of light at incredible speed...there were two beings on each side of me...they told me telepathically they were angels...we began to slow down and I could see a portal or doorway ahead...I remember thinking that it was similar to a landing pad. I began taking in what I could at this slower pace. I saw that the tunnel of light were actually angels 'standing' side by side...on both sides of us...each possessing sixwings! Two placed as we are traditionally taught...however much larger and magnificent...these touched the same wings of the angel on either side of them...they each had another set coming off their uppper backs...these extended up and over...touching the same wings of the angel opposite them...forming a half circle 'roof'. Then each had 2 more coming from their ankles...these formed the other half circle...the 'floor' of the tunnel. This is an interesting sidenote...I understood that only the Light gave them any form. Similar to air giving a balloon form. Later I was shown the fall of Lucifer...the best example is a fully blown balloon (untied) and released...chaotic with no direction just as a balloon would be. These angels forming the tunnel were sculpted in a human form...instead of marble or granite they would be described as lightbulbs! I looked beyond them and saw this darkness...deep and blacker than black...I was getting terrified...I understood this as 'outer darkness'...there were places and levels there also. It was not Hell... but that's another topic. I then saw Jesus at the portal opening...he was expecting me...there was no doubt of that. He is 1000 times more loving than anything this realm can perceive...I even hesitate that I should place a limit on this love. Some would ask how I knew this was Jesus...Because I KNEW him...I knew I had known him before. It was like dearly beloved old friends too long apart. He reached out not able to wait for my actual landing, and pulled me into his arms. Instantly...or the veil is pulled down on memory concerning anything that took place in betweeen...to my memory, I felt as though I tumbled into what would be described as 'as the throne room'. Perhaps this was another level and in traveling there, I didn't slow up to land. But I was crumpled on the floor wondering why this didn't hurt. This floor...it was as a soft cushion yet at the same time without any give. It appeared to be pure gold...combined with techniques that are yet to be discovered in this realm. It was blown (glass) gold. I looked around me and it was then I realized I must have died. This was wriiten by John. Yet, we cannot perceive its truth. There is little reference for us here to understand what John truthfully described. There was a throne before me...there were holy beings lined up and in rows on each side. Hundreds. There was a shift in the atmosphere...a holy music telepathically came from these beings...and I heard telepathically many voices saying, "HE'S HERE...HE'S COMING IN." At the same time...these beings in a human form and beautifully colored and arrayed began 'sprouting' wings. I must define sprouting. These wings are retractable! Years later I was to see here in this realm some of the fantasy movies' armour, "form and retract" exactly how these wings did also. Each being has three sets of wings. This was just awesome to me! I understood also that all things do proceed from above. I believe that one day this concept will not be a fantasy...of which I had no reference to on earth even in fantasy form for years thereafter. Yet the fantasy was birthed here from 'above'. I also understand why some people believe that angels do not have wings at all...or with only two...Ezekiel saw 4--two sets of wings on the cherubs.
The next event was that I looked up and saw the Father...wrathful (as in my prior post) ? I'm referring to my belief prior to my meeting him...this due to fear-based religion. Jesus, I had perceived as love, but the Father as this wrathful, angry, punishing God that only Jesus could control...as if they had cut a dysfunctional 'deal'. As I look back on this belief it truly seems to me that the fear in religion is so occultic...like the sacrifice (Jesus) to appease the god(s). I should have been more clear in my prior post. I was terrified...this was my belief living this earth realm...so it was there also for me. In speed that cannot be described, I was taken through what some refer to as a 'life review' ...I felt everything I had ever done to another and myself...from the least act to the greatest. This terrrified me even more...I was literally groveling on the floor before the Father...and this did not set well with Him at all...Whoa!...and what I felt from Him I perceived as...that Hell was just around the corner. What I felt was Righteous Anger...oh yes, but there is no reference for this on earth. Man's anger has no part whatsoever in what is true Righteous Anger. But...what I felt from Him was about this...He said Why is she groveling??? (and this to everyone in the room) I peeked through my hands and I knew He was telepathically speaking with Jesus. I must add that when He asked this question...His voice was like thunder...it was booming and resonated through me...it kept echoing outward through the universe. My word does not go out void. He then spoke to me so tenderly...Don't you know that my children do not grovel before me? Stand up. Now come to me. He took me in his arms and upon His lap like a father with their child...He spoke to me about fearing Him...there was nothing to fear of or in Him. There is no punishment in or of Him. This is from man alone. "They are lying about me, He said." Man punishes themselves...and others. I could not possibly write here of every knowing that was placed in me by Him. Does this sound egotistical? It would to me. I must clarify once again that I only received a drop of knowledge out of the oceans of the world in comparision to what is contained in the Father. This full realization was known to me at that time. This 'program' was what I needed first...and that yet would have to be integrated fully into my system when I returned...there were still those shadows I must heal with Spirit and the Truth...and the help of those who made agreements with me before this lifetime began. "WE speak that WE do KNOW and testify that WE have seen and ye receive not our witness"..John 3:11...."And NO man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven"...John 3:13. This scripture is evidence of pre-existance. Why do I have a feeling that some of you also know this already?!! It was another burning question?! I remember questioning this scripture to those in the church long ago. This was met with irritation. Or, I would receive a great deal of theological distractive jargon...which in fact had no reference to the question...the answers I received were nonsensical.
The Orb...this was light proceeding from within the Father. It wasn't a perfect circle. It was flowing and bursting forth from Him at the same time. There were rays and also small orbs or balls of light breaking off of the whole. Oh yes! These smaller orbs breaking off the whole had various reasons for doing so. Some were returning to this realm (and I understood...other realms) as 'ghosts'...I would say in this context...some come to help those who are wandering on this plane...they don't know they are dead...or...they are terrified of moving on because they believe they will go to Hell. Some are ancestors...even to these dark entities...some ancestors or friends to those alive here. Some are about to enter a fetus...and begin their incarnation here.
The levels are Infinite! There is no arrival destination other than the light! I know I am inadequate in defining this. We desire home...the whole of the light...but once in this light...there are absolutely magnificent worlds or levels of further destinations 'deep unto deep' into the light. This would describe I AM!!! There is one Major difference: the oppression that is in this earth realm, including the body, is not within the light and these levels of light worlds. There is also a 'prison'...those that have learning, not punishment, to evolve their fearful beliefs into the understanding of the love of God. This may take more than one level to learn through before they go on to the Father. My husband experienced this on his NDE...as I did on another level. I will add though, Jesus was in this place he went to...he was there for him. The great teacher! As he was for all in these levels. There is no Hell that religion declares to control the people by fear! When I heard, "HE'S HERE...HE'S COMING"...I was to understand in the Father's arms that He came to me from at that moment from a much deeper level...to the level I was only able to reach. His love is that great. He resides within and moves throughout these levels of the whole of his light.
...perhaps what Jesus meant when he said to me all scripture is true...is just that! As in Abraham was God's chosen man at that time to bring a nation forth...but the guy still pimped his wife out twice. Sorry for the brash truth...but that's what he did out of fear. I also believe that (the apostle) Paul had an NDE. From that I know that one does not understand all they have seen & heard. I have to say there is a handicap in knowing through a NDE...that is the integration of this into our body system. One who receives knowing while in their body is in fact at an incredible advantage. I did see as face to face...that is remarkable. But it also presents an incredible burden. It is not unheard of to take many years to integrate all one has seen & heard on the other side. One who receives on this side...the knowing...well I know what that's like also. It permeates through one's entire system. What I have experienced in my past and still do when more integration is flowing...could be likened to a paralysis. One knows how to walk...but one cannot bring it forth. "Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet believed." I intimately understand this truth. Although I am grateful beyond words for my NDE I also understand the burden. I was even instructed how to fast a particular way for one reason...so that being in my body once again would be more tolerable. Also...I understood this is due to the flesh DNA. This is another reason we here are having difficulty in attaining what we know to be true. Science has proven just how much information is passed on through DNA. This is evolving from us. The Dark Ages were particularly damaging....and this takes time to purge from our DNA. Just that alone! I also experienced misunderstanding of what I heard! Yet the path is narrow...these misunderstandings did not fit. I also believe Paul experienced a martyr victom persona...I believe due to guilt for his vengeful persecutions upon the early church. He evolves from quite abit of abuse upon himself to 'miraculously' skating out of stonings and beatings. This guilt would also filter through his understanding of what he hears within or from his NDE. Also I see a gradual change in Paul's writings over time. He seems to begin the integration...the theme of "Hell fire" seems to be purging out of him a little. I think the mistake is made in believing Paul could possibly be "All Knowing" by religion...
-Sixwings
The next event was that I looked up and saw the Father...wrathful (as in my prior post) ? I'm referring to my belief prior to my meeting him...this due to fear-based religion. Jesus, I had perceived as love, but the Father as this wrathful, angry, punishing God that only Jesus could control...as if they had cut a dysfunctional 'deal'. As I look back on this belief it truly seems to me that the fear in religion is so occultic...like the sacrifice (Jesus) to appease the god(s). I should have been more clear in my prior post. I was terrified...this was my belief living this earth realm...so it was there also for me. In speed that cannot be described, I was taken through what some refer to as a 'life review' ...I felt everything I had ever done to another and myself...from the least act to the greatest. This terrrified me even more...I was literally groveling on the floor before the Father...and this did not set well with Him at all...Whoa!...and what I felt from Him I perceived as...that Hell was just around the corner. What I felt was Righteous Anger...oh yes, but there is no reference for this on earth. Man's anger has no part whatsoever in what is true Righteous Anger. But...what I felt from Him was about this...He said Why is she groveling??? (and this to everyone in the room) I peeked through my hands and I knew He was telepathically speaking with Jesus. I must add that when He asked this question...His voice was like thunder...it was booming and resonated through me...it kept echoing outward through the universe. My word does not go out void. He then spoke to me so tenderly...Don't you know that my children do not grovel before me? Stand up. Now come to me. He took me in his arms and upon His lap like a father with their child...He spoke to me about fearing Him...there was nothing to fear of or in Him. There is no punishment in or of Him. This is from man alone. "They are lying about me, He said." Man punishes themselves...and others. I could not possibly write here of every knowing that was placed in me by Him. Does this sound egotistical? It would to me. I must clarify once again that I only received a drop of knowledge out of the oceans of the world in comparision to what is contained in the Father. This full realization was known to me at that time. This 'program' was what I needed first...and that yet would have to be integrated fully into my system when I returned...there were still those shadows I must heal with Spirit and the Truth...and the help of those who made agreements with me before this lifetime began. "WE speak that WE do KNOW and testify that WE have seen and ye receive not our witness"..John 3:11...."And NO man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven"...John 3:13. This scripture is evidence of pre-existance. Why do I have a feeling that some of you also know this already?!! It was another burning question?! I remember questioning this scripture to those in the church long ago. This was met with irritation. Or, I would receive a great deal of theological distractive jargon...which in fact had no reference to the question...the answers I received were nonsensical.
The Orb...this was light proceeding from within the Father. It wasn't a perfect circle. It was flowing and bursting forth from Him at the same time. There were rays and also small orbs or balls of light breaking off of the whole. Oh yes! These smaller orbs breaking off the whole had various reasons for doing so. Some were returning to this realm (and I understood...other realms) as 'ghosts'...I would say in this context...some come to help those who are wandering on this plane...they don't know they are dead...or...they are terrified of moving on because they believe they will go to Hell. Some are ancestors...even to these dark entities...some ancestors or friends to those alive here. Some are about to enter a fetus...and begin their incarnation here.
The levels are Infinite! There is no arrival destination other than the light! I know I am inadequate in defining this. We desire home...the whole of the light...but once in this light...there are absolutely magnificent worlds or levels of further destinations 'deep unto deep' into the light. This would describe I AM!!! There is one Major difference: the oppression that is in this earth realm, including the body, is not within the light and these levels of light worlds. There is also a 'prison'...those that have learning, not punishment, to evolve their fearful beliefs into the understanding of the love of God. This may take more than one level to learn through before they go on to the Father. My husband experienced this on his NDE...as I did on another level. I will add though, Jesus was in this place he went to...he was there for him. The great teacher! As he was for all in these levels. There is no Hell that religion declares to control the people by fear! When I heard, "HE'S HERE...HE'S COMING"...I was to understand in the Father's arms that He came to me from at that moment from a much deeper level...to the level I was only able to reach. His love is that great. He resides within and moves throughout these levels of the whole of his light.
...perhaps what Jesus meant when he said to me all scripture is true...is just that! As in Abraham was God's chosen man at that time to bring a nation forth...but the guy still pimped his wife out twice. Sorry for the brash truth...but that's what he did out of fear. I also believe that (the apostle) Paul had an NDE. From that I know that one does not understand all they have seen & heard. I have to say there is a handicap in knowing through a NDE...that is the integration of this into our body system. One who receives knowing while in their body is in fact at an incredible advantage. I did see as face to face...that is remarkable. But it also presents an incredible burden. It is not unheard of to take many years to integrate all one has seen & heard on the other side. One who receives on this side...the knowing...well I know what that's like also. It permeates through one's entire system. What I have experienced in my past and still do when more integration is flowing...could be likened to a paralysis. One knows how to walk...but one cannot bring it forth. "Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet believed." I intimately understand this truth. Although I am grateful beyond words for my NDE I also understand the burden. I was even instructed how to fast a particular way for one reason...so that being in my body once again would be more tolerable. Also...I understood this is due to the flesh DNA. This is another reason we here are having difficulty in attaining what we know to be true. Science has proven just how much information is passed on through DNA. This is evolving from us. The Dark Ages were particularly damaging....and this takes time to purge from our DNA. Just that alone! I also experienced misunderstanding of what I heard! Yet the path is narrow...these misunderstandings did not fit. I also believe Paul experienced a martyr victom persona...I believe due to guilt for his vengeful persecutions upon the early church. He evolves from quite abit of abuse upon himself to 'miraculously' skating out of stonings and beatings. This guilt would also filter through his understanding of what he hears within or from his NDE. Also I see a gradual change in Paul's writings over time. He seems to begin the integration...the theme of "Hell fire" seems to be purging out of him a little. I think the mistake is made in believing Paul could possibly be "All Knowing" by religion...
-Sixwings
Our Background, Indigo Children and My Near Death Experience
We have encountered others who have left religion and in doing so chose also to leave God. What a life-lesson! It's been quite a ride! Our daughter is 17 yrs. going on 34. She is an Indigo Kids. There's quite a few websites and books on the topic. PMH Atwater who does extensive NDE research also has researched what she terms The Children of the New Millenium. There are more and more children being born with these similarities. It is our belief that the cry in religion declaring that Jesus is coming soon in the flesh is true...in these kids! If you go to some of the websites there is statistical research showing a phenominal influx of these kids entering this realm. Now, more than ever. In New Zealand they have found that these kids are not the minority in classrooms as they were even 5 yrs ago. They are finding that they compose 90% of the classroom population. With that rapidly increasing. These kids have a burning desire to do the works of Jesus. Like not just feeding the poor...but literally solve world hunger. Jesus said the poor will be with you always...he never said they should go without food. These kids are highly creative...in the arts...but also creative thinkers. This is going to come as sounding like the most frivolous decision for a vocation...and not at all Christlike!? My daughter has decided to become involved in the clothing industry. She is determined to make money and lots of it. We were taken back by that. Our thoughts were her being a natural healer. We listened to her reasoning....it amazed us. She has discovered a way to her highest goal. She loves art...she loves healing...and she's found a natural talent in healing some of her friends wounds and low opinions of themselves by not following the 'click' fads at school (very expensive) but to simply find what fits the individual and the courage to be just that. She's got a reputation for being a stylist consultant at school. She's decided to use all of herself as part of her path to her purpose. Which so far doesn't sound at all spiritual. She figures the wealthy are going to buy and spend anyway...she wants it, what cash is exchanged, transfered to a higher purpose. In doing so she will not rob the poor...as governments and religion do. Clothing design to her is simply an enjoyable way to her purpose. She is intolerant of the deprevation in our country and in third world countries. Does this sound like the wealth of the gentiles will be given to the children? A new cut on that diamond of scripture? She's not alone either...these kids believe with a passion these things can and will be accomplished in their lifetime. They are highly creative in the means to acccomplish this and other world problems....that Jesus would have done. The works that I do you will do and greater than these will you do. He fed 5000+. I'm also hearing about some other kids being born with even greater manifestation gifts...they are in few now...they have the natural ability to manifest instantly...filling an empty glass with water. Can you imagine a gifted child like that in the wrong hands? Also, Moses and Elijah returning? With supernatural gifts. What other truths did she just know intuitively? At 4 years she discussed her past incarnations here. It was never a topic in our home. She knew that you could carry over a trauma. We had placed her in beginning swimming lessons 6 times. Just so we could wash her hair. This easy going pleasant child would turn into a rabid lioness. It took almost one year...she swims like a fish now. She wanted to tell that a most tramautic event in another visit here was running from the castle and in attempting to save another from drowning...she too drowned. She said she failed an important 'mission'. The first time she saw a picture of our solar system at about 5 yrs old, she 'informed' us that she was not from this system...but from another galaxy...and that there are 'many mansions in my father's house'. She thought water baptism was the silliest thing she'd ever heard. Especially the importance of it. That it had anything to do with washing away sins. Loving is what is important. I (her mom) became acutely aware of the love this child had to give very shortly after she was born...loving, something that is not considered to be possible in a young infant. I had post-partum depression...the choice not involved in this chemically imbalanced depression was even more distressing to me. I began to find that every time I held her I felt better. I felt love. Depression being empty of love...it hit me one night...this love I felt was not from me...it was from her. She was healing me through it. She was less than a month old!? She also knew that it was the act of love and its intent...the straight and narrow path was this and this alone, regardless of choice of deity. She also refuted the covert belief that self-love is a selfish act. It being absolutely essential to love others and God. Guilt trips would not only fall flat on her with its intent...but she would more often than not, have something quite to the point to speak back to it....and without a doubt if this was inflicted on another... perhaps wounded other. This with insight beyond her years. She is without predjudice. As far as the scripture study...it is something she doesn't do. She claims that the truth is already in our hearts. ('written on our hearts'!) You can imagine a 4th grader expressing this at a Pentecostal Academy? Standing alone? It was amazing how the doctrine suddenly came forth as preceeding the love this child displayed, and had prior been praised and recognized by them for it. She was to them an example of the last days...how even the elect might be deceived. I would add that we don't necessarily agree with everything believed by those on the Indigo sites and those writing books. I am concerned with exploitation of these kids.
Pre-existence...my daughter speaks of her place (home) as connected to but not in what we would traditionally call or describe heaven as. She states there are places where one actually has their own 'planet'...she doesn't think about it anymore...she knows why she is here and she knows she chose to be here...and that is her business at hand. During my NDE...I met Jesus...wouldn't I? I say that because this was my "agenda mind-set"...I love this guy...not because I'm 'suppose' to either...I could not help falling in love with him. My NDE was quite extensive...it will take time to cover what all I saw. The main theme for me in that experience was to open my eyes....to tear down religious doctrine that controlled me. Time does not exist...I went to what we define as past, present, & future...all being present states. The pre-existence as I saw can be in uncountable diversities. Manifestation being what is. I knew that I had always 'been'. I knew that there were other places in the 'universe' where one could learn as Earth is used. I saw that there was a plan for the Earth to evolve into a higher place of habitation. I was taken before The Father...I did see him as an aged man! Could he not take any form he chooses to take? A burning bush? This image was much easier on my psyche. And...I was already completely terrified of Him at that point. Jesus I could handle well...but the Father was wrathful (to me in my mind). Light was bursting from Him like a pulsating orb...so I was left to see His lower arms...down. He was huge. I understood him to be nonsexual...no he...no she...'He' IS. Although in paradox He also contains within Him the male/feminine...He is manifestation. I could say alot more at this point of the particulars I saw there...but I'm attempting fatally I think(!) to stick to pre-existence. Pre-existence can be inclusive of past incarnations here...they can be a 'next step'...and not at all pertaining to blowing it here in a past life or karma...many have incarnated again just to help others...remember Paul stating he was only yet here because of them?(paraphrased) Agreements are made there before coming into this realm and with many. I was shown what I was going to face returning here...I didn't want to return...my daughter who was not born in this world yet came to me... herself and Jesus counseled me...I would call those agreements vows...what's interesting about this is that I was told I couldn't have anymore children (by the world). Also, the man I was married to at the time was also sterilized. Upon my return I assumed I would adopt her. However, the veil had closed between realms...as events took place here, I was shakened to remember clearly those events I was before shown. The veil had to be put up...on many of those future events of my life. I lost everyone in my life...I can't blame them...I tried...it didn't fair well! Who they had known was not at all the same person. 'I have not come for peace but division'...(family specified) took on a whole new understanding. Six years later...and my daughter was born. I had told everyone exactly what she'd look like. We also could be on the It's a Miracle show...the medical profession was absolutely baffled...not for one reason...but a series of reasons. Before her birth my doctor asked me if I was prepared for the inevitable...from brain damage to gross deformities. He just didn't know that I not only had seen her...I knew her. The only medical 'problem' she has is being allergic to wheat. She is the picture of health as long as she doesn't ingest this. She also is clearly not deformed...maybe this had something to do with her sense of justice...but she choose to incarnate as a beauty. Where those genes came from is a total mystery to us. One would think she in fact was adopted. I was shown my husband 'there' also...his NDE occurred the same month as my own...the moment we looked in each others eyes here...romance?...love at first sight?...better put...we knew each other...both of us recognized each other. Pre-existence is in that light...I was taken into the Father's arms and He spoke to me about fearing Him. When love had cast out fear...I was taken into 'His' light. The next thing I knew is that I was holding Jesus' hand and flying through a snowfall...no ordinary snowfall...we were miniscule...the snowflakes were the size of a major building in comparison. We flew through the designs of these snowflakes...absolutely having a ball. Suddenly, the 'whole' of the snowfall had within itself absolute diversity...each snowflake a creation unique...no two would ever be the same...this being infinite. In other words...as no two snowflakes are the same within the 'whole' of the snowfall...as no two fingerprints are the same within the whole of the human race (cloning? not sure...still meditating on that one)...so is this within the whole...but without a human term...greatly amplified? Got It! Deep unto Deep! I know some of you have experienced that scripture...the same truth...then in time...you receive more truth within that truth without contradiction...yet it is incredible that it is so huge...this deeper truth. So is the Whole. I've heard many say, even NDEer's, that there is an arrival point, that the destination is back into conciousness and that's the ultimate goal or that heaven is. Certainly/absolutely not! At that point of entering the whole...it is infinitely even more diversified within itself and of a deeper quality. I had this strong sense that the universe was expanding from within itself. As in, even this world, used as a place of learning...would ultimately be as 'heaven' . I feel I am inadequate in expressing this as I would. Evolving is creation recreating upon itself...deep unto deep. This is about creation. Even 'there'. What that looks like? What would you love it to be? As long as it falls under the greatest commandment...it is lawful for your universe to be 'painted' as you desire. You are the manifester! I'm a movie buff...Robin Hood...Kevin Costner...Morgan Freeman...a little girl asks the latter if God painted his face & why....he answered her...because God loves wondrous diversity. I was stunned...I had heard those words spoken before...but not in this realm!
Jesus had told me that every scripture was truth...I must look between the syntax - therein lies the Spirit. Jesus also said on 'my trip' that truth is without end and without contradiction. That knowledge of the truth even by the wisest in this realm is but a drop (as we were sitting by the sea he scooped his hand in the water and allowed one drop to fall through his fingers) out of the oceans of the world...that God has for us. As a seeker in this realm that could come as an exhausting thought! But gaining more knowledge there is like eating food and drink here.
I know this is going to cause a flurry with religious zealots in its time! I also know their territory...how they view it all!
-Sixwings
Pre-existence...my daughter speaks of her place (home) as connected to but not in what we would traditionally call or describe heaven as. She states there are places where one actually has their own 'planet'...she doesn't think about it anymore...she knows why she is here and she knows she chose to be here...and that is her business at hand. During my NDE...I met Jesus...wouldn't I? I say that because this was my "agenda mind-set"...I love this guy...not because I'm 'suppose' to either...I could not help falling in love with him. My NDE was quite extensive...it will take time to cover what all I saw. The main theme for me in that experience was to open my eyes....to tear down religious doctrine that controlled me. Time does not exist...I went to what we define as past, present, & future...all being present states. The pre-existence as I saw can be in uncountable diversities. Manifestation being what is. I knew that I had always 'been'. I knew that there were other places in the 'universe' where one could learn as Earth is used. I saw that there was a plan for the Earth to evolve into a higher place of habitation. I was taken before The Father...I did see him as an aged man! Could he not take any form he chooses to take? A burning bush? This image was much easier on my psyche. And...I was already completely terrified of Him at that point. Jesus I could handle well...but the Father was wrathful (to me in my mind). Light was bursting from Him like a pulsating orb...so I was left to see His lower arms...down. He was huge. I understood him to be nonsexual...no he...no she...'He' IS. Although in paradox He also contains within Him the male/feminine...He is manifestation. I could say alot more at this point of the particulars I saw there...but I'm attempting fatally I think(!) to stick to pre-existence. Pre-existence can be inclusive of past incarnations here...they can be a 'next step'...and not at all pertaining to blowing it here in a past life or karma...many have incarnated again just to help others...remember Paul stating he was only yet here because of them?(paraphrased) Agreements are made there before coming into this realm and with many. I was shown what I was going to face returning here...I didn't want to return...my daughter who was not born in this world yet came to me... herself and Jesus counseled me...I would call those agreements vows...what's interesting about this is that I was told I couldn't have anymore children (by the world). Also, the man I was married to at the time was also sterilized. Upon my return I assumed I would adopt her. However, the veil had closed between realms...as events took place here, I was shakened to remember clearly those events I was before shown. The veil had to be put up...on many of those future events of my life. I lost everyone in my life...I can't blame them...I tried...it didn't fair well! Who they had known was not at all the same person. 'I have not come for peace but division'...(family specified) took on a whole new understanding. Six years later...and my daughter was born. I had told everyone exactly what she'd look like. We also could be on the It's a Miracle show...the medical profession was absolutely baffled...not for one reason...but a series of reasons. Before her birth my doctor asked me if I was prepared for the inevitable...from brain damage to gross deformities. He just didn't know that I not only had seen her...I knew her. The only medical 'problem' she has is being allergic to wheat. She is the picture of health as long as she doesn't ingest this. She also is clearly not deformed...maybe this had something to do with her sense of justice...but she choose to incarnate as a beauty. Where those genes came from is a total mystery to us. One would think she in fact was adopted. I was shown my husband 'there' also...his NDE occurred the same month as my own...the moment we looked in each others eyes here...romance?...love at first sight?...better put...we knew each other...both of us recognized each other. Pre-existence is in that light...I was taken into the Father's arms and He spoke to me about fearing Him. When love had cast out fear...I was taken into 'His' light. The next thing I knew is that I was holding Jesus' hand and flying through a snowfall...no ordinary snowfall...we were miniscule...the snowflakes were the size of a major building in comparison. We flew through the designs of these snowflakes...absolutely having a ball. Suddenly, the 'whole' of the snowfall had within itself absolute diversity...each snowflake a creation unique...no two would ever be the same...this being infinite. In other words...as no two snowflakes are the same within the 'whole' of the snowfall...as no two fingerprints are the same within the whole of the human race (cloning? not sure...still meditating on that one)...so is this within the whole...but without a human term...greatly amplified? Got It! Deep unto Deep! I know some of you have experienced that scripture...the same truth...then in time...you receive more truth within that truth without contradiction...yet it is incredible that it is so huge...this deeper truth. So is the Whole. I've heard many say, even NDEer's, that there is an arrival point, that the destination is back into conciousness and that's the ultimate goal or that heaven is. Certainly/absolutely not! At that point of entering the whole...it is infinitely even more diversified within itself and of a deeper quality. I had this strong sense that the universe was expanding from within itself. As in, even this world, used as a place of learning...would ultimately be as 'heaven' . I feel I am inadequate in expressing this as I would. Evolving is creation recreating upon itself...deep unto deep. This is about creation. Even 'there'. What that looks like? What would you love it to be? As long as it falls under the greatest commandment...it is lawful for your universe to be 'painted' as you desire. You are the manifester! I'm a movie buff...Robin Hood...Kevin Costner...Morgan Freeman...a little girl asks the latter if God painted his face & why....he answered her...because God loves wondrous diversity. I was stunned...I had heard those words spoken before...but not in this realm!
Jesus had told me that every scripture was truth...I must look between the syntax - therein lies the Spirit. Jesus also said on 'my trip' that truth is without end and without contradiction. That knowledge of the truth even by the wisest in this realm is but a drop (as we were sitting by the sea he scooped his hand in the water and allowed one drop to fall through his fingers) out of the oceans of the world...that God has for us. As a seeker in this realm that could come as an exhausting thought! But gaining more knowledge there is like eating food and drink here.
I know this is going to cause a flurry with religious zealots in its time! I also know their territory...how they view it all!
-Sixwings
Welcome To The Near Death Experience Blog!
Introduction from Sixwings:
I have traveled through Brethren and Pentecostal churches with a near death experience half way through the latter of the two. My husband....harsh Catholic upbringing...near death experience...Baptist...Pentecostal. We gave up our favorite pews some years ago...as we became weary in gleaning truth through the leaven. We actually were there at this point because our daughter was thriving in the environment...she also attended the affilate church school...up to the 4th grade she was the kid who was awarded yearly as having the most Christ like attributes...then...she began posing 'anthema' questions...and not just opinions, but knowing...inquisition time hit. Especially when she voiced that she did not worship Jesus as God, but loved him as a dear friend and God's son as we all are. Quite frankly, despite The ax coming down on the other side, neither my husband or I had even considered this different view until this child taught us, as she has many spiritual 'knowings'. We love truthful knowledge...to see others 'points' like in the cuts of a diamond...reflecting yet more light...only increasing the value. We are also burdened for those in the prison of religion.
Introduction from Sixwings:
I have traveled through Brethren and Pentecostal churches with a near death experience half way through the latter of the two. My husband....harsh Catholic upbringing...near death experience...Baptist...Pentecostal. We gave up our favorite pews some years ago...as we became weary in gleaning truth through the leaven. We actually were there at this point because our daughter was thriving in the environment...she also attended the affilate church school...up to the 4th grade she was the kid who was awarded yearly as having the most Christ like attributes...then...she began posing 'anthema' questions...and not just opinions, but knowing...inquisition time hit. Especially when she voiced that she did not worship Jesus as God, but loved him as a dear friend and God's son as we all are. Quite frankly, despite The ax coming down on the other side, neither my husband or I had even considered this different view until this child taught us, as she has many spiritual 'knowings'. We love truthful knowledge...to see others 'points' like in the cuts of a diamond...reflecting yet more light...only increasing the value. We are also burdened for those in the prison of religion.
